Rebirth of the 40 frag tank (72 posts)

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 12 months ago:

    Quite some time ago, I set up a 40 breeder, as a frag tank.  Shortly after setting it up, it was revamped, as a holding tank for a couple other member's livestock.  Recently, the last of that livestock was removed.  Now it's time to return it to it's original purpose, with a few changes.  The tank has been moved back upstairs.  It will be lit with a Hamilton 250MH Pendant with a Hamilton 14K SE bulb, and will probably have a SWC Mini HOT skimmer added, in the near future.  I still have a Tek5, 6 bulb fixture, on standby, in case I'm unhappy with, and decide to change the lighting. (Though I still have a second 40 breeder I need to find room for…lol) There just isn't room to put a sump/fuge under the tank, so for now, I'll rely on the large CPR Aquafuge, with a DSB.  The tank will have minimal live rock.  I am researching and considering a DIY Denitrator and/or Remote Bucket DSB. 

    This tank will be used primarily to grow SPS, Acans, Echinos and some Zoanthids.  Fish will include a small Tang, probably a Scopas, for algae control and a 4 or 6 lined wrasse, to control an flatworms or other possible pests.

    Pics will be posted soon!

  • Profile picture of Joanne Vega Joanne Vega said 12 months ago:

    lol – why put fish in it?? It'll prolly get populated with rejects like mine in no time!! :D hahahaha

  • Profile picture of Slate Slate said 12 months ago:

    estanoche said:
    lol – why put fish in it?? It'll prolly get populated with rejects like mine in no time!! :D hahahaha

    We don't all feel the need to torture our livestock like you do Joanne……

  • Profile picture of Joanne Vega Joanne Vega said 12 months ago:

    Slate said:

    estanoche said:
    lol – why put fish in it?? It'll prolly get populated with rejects like mine in no time!! :D hahahaha

    We don't all feel the need to torture our livestock like you do Joanne……

    Ahh well "torture" is subjective ;) I consider it vacationing …… for an undefined period of time

  • Profile picture of PowersReef PowersReef said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    What type of DIY denitrator are you considering?

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    estanoche said:
    lol – why put fish in it?? It'll prolly get populated with rejects like mine in no time!! :D hahahaha

    I want a couple of fish, as utility, to keep algae and pests controlled. 

    Yesterday, I placed 2 pieces of rock, (20lbs) on the bottom. This rock is very well established. I'll be adding a couple smaller pieces, from the bottom of the 200 and then scattering some rubble over the bottom. I have about 30 gallons of water in the tank and need to make up more RO/DI water, to make more saltwater, before I can fill it up. I'm not expecting a cycle in this tank, since all of the rock will be well established. I may experience a diatom bloom, but that's to be expected.

    Today, it's off to the hardware store, to get a couple things that I need, to hang the pendant with.

    As for fish, I'd mentioned I'd probably be adding a Scopas Tang. Well, scratch that! While at Aquarium Solutions, yesterday, a teeny, tiny Kole Tang caught my eye! It's VERY HEALTHY and I just had to have it. Needless to say, we brought it home. Temporarily, it's calling Angie's 24 gallon Aquapod home. This Tang is only slightly larger than the Percula clownfish in her nano, maybe 1", total length! The nano is badly overrun with algae, so this will give it something to do, for a few days!!

    I'll get pics taken today, though Angie's nano is hard to photograph, with the curved glass, so we'll see what kind of pics I can get of the tiny Kole Tang.

    PowersReef said:
    What type of DIY denitrator are you considering?

    Google "DIY Denitrator."  The type I'm considering is made up of an acrylic cylinder, with tubing coiled inside it, maybe the addition of some bio-balls.  The bio-balls won't become a nitrate farm, as they do in an aerobic environment, as this cylinder would be sealed, creating an anaerobic environment.

    I'm kind of leaning away from a DIY Denitrator, but am still researching it.  We'll see if it happens or not…lol.

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Couple of quick pics.

    The tiny Kole Tang, in Angie's nano, for a few days.  Just cleaned the glass, so there's some particulate floating in the water.  Please forgive the crappy picture quality!

  • Profile picture of Slate Slate said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Holy crap that thing is tiny!  I bet the shrimp wants to eat it  :o

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Neither the shrimp, nor the Tang will be in there long…lol.  The shrimp, along with a Scarlet Shrimp, are in the Nano to keep them alive, while I did my 6 month interceptor treatment, in the 200.  I treat the 200, with a full tablet of Interceptor, every 6 months, just as a precaution.  Unfortunately, it kills the shrimp.  I was only able to catch these two, so did lose one Cleaner shrimp and four Peppermint shrimp.

    The two remaining shrimp will go back to the 200, very soon and the tang will be in the 40 soon!

    Went to the hardware store today, for some thin angle iron, that I need to hang the pendant, off of a upper shelf, which doesn't hang out enough.  Lighting should be hung, by this evening.

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 4 weeks ago:

    The 40…IT'S IS ALIVE!!

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The Kole Tang, still residing in Angie's nano.

    This one is a crappy photo, but may help give an idea of just how tiny this guy is.  The circle of Bubble Algae, in the background, is actually bubble algae plugging up a 1" hole that I drilled, so that bubble algae circle is 1".  The Kole Tang is about 3" closer to me, than the bubble algae circle, so appears larger.  In fact, when the tang is picking at all that nasty algae, you see, on the back, it's about the same size, as that bubble algae circle.

    I'd considered moving the tang into the 40, in the next couple of days, but have reconsidered.  Since there's plenty of room, in the nano, for it, right now AND since it's actually doing a great job of cleaning up that algae, I'll leave it be for a bit. That's better than moving it to the 40, where I'd have to provide it algae.

    Here's the latest photo of the 40, all filled up, with a few tester corals in it.  I've also added a modded Maxijet, adding 1300 gph of flow, to the Koralia 3.  I'm still debating on switching out the propeller, to the 2200 gph prop.

  • Profile picture of Joanne Vega Joanne Vega said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    prolly good to give him time to get some fat on him too before moving him to the barren 40 :) I've always had trouble keeping those stupid tangs alive… dunno whats wrong with them, but I think they need a good solid food source :D

  • Profile picture of MGDMIRAGE MGDMIRAGE said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Holy crap that tang is freaking adorable!

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    MGDMIRAGE said:
    Holy crap that tang is freaking adorable!

    Sure is!  It actually dislodges pieces of Bubble Algae and then chases it around the tank, bouncing it off it's nose…lol.  Reminds me of a puppy trying to play with a ball that's too large to fit in it's mouth!

    SWC MiniHOT skimmer has been ordered, from Luke!  Can't wait to get that bad boy up and running!

    I'm starting to get some diatom algae, on the rock and glass bottom, which I expected.  Tossed a few Strombus snails in, to give them something to do.

    Added a few "non essential" SPS to the tank, over the past couple of days.  So far, so good!

  • Profile picture of returnofsid returnofsid said 11 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Today, I took some time to get a few photos of the SWC MiniHOT Skimmer, that I purchased from Luke, at Reef Filtrations.  I'll also give a limited review, of the skimmer.  The only reason it'll be a "limited review" is because I've had it installed for less than 24 hours.  Luke was very prompt in communications about this skimmer, and even more prompt in getting it in stock and shipped to me.  Thanks Luke!!

    Let's cut to the chase, I'm IMPRESSED!!!

    Initially, the skimmer arrived, packaged very well, in the SWC factory packaging.  However, there wasn't any literature in the box.  No directions, no warranty paperwork, nothing.  I was slightly disappointed in this.  I had to guess, at assembly, but it's fairly straight forward and easily assembled.  However, priming it is a bit of a guessing game, without instructions, and I could see how someone could easily burn out the pump, if not familiar with the priming steps.  I actually called SWC and they walked me through it.  Conveniently, their phone number, both office and cell, are on the box.

    I would advise anyone thinking about purchasing this skimmer, once assembled, hang it on the front or side of your tank first.  Once it's plugged in, watch the 2 "nuts" that hold the pump assembly in place.  If not tight enough, these will leak.  More on that, including photos, in a bit.

    A note, about the photos.  All photos were taken today, shortly after tinkering with it a little bit.  Yesterday, within about 2 hours of being installed and plugged in, it was already pulling GUNK.  It was wet gunk, but it was also DARK gunk.  Today, while tinkering with it, I had set the collection cup a little low, so it was skimming even more wet.  Because of this, you'll see a slightly dark skimmate.  While taking photos, the collection cup is actually set slightly high.  Still figuring out the final adjustments, while the skimmer breaks in.  However, I was very pleasantly surprised, yesterday, to empty the cup, which was half full, of dark, nasty, smelly gunk!

    Oh another note.  These photos were taken, with the skimmer hanging on the front of the tank, to facilitate taking pictures.  So, keep that in mind, as you view them.  Most of the photos are showing the back of the skimmer.

    Overall, the dimensions are 8" wide, by 14" tall (not including the collection cup, which will add more heigth) by 6".  The body is only 3 1/2", so you'll only need 3 1/2" between the wall and your tank!

    Again, yesterday, this collection cup was half full, with DARK, Smelly, GUNK!  In this photo, you'll see a slightly dark, wet skimmate, but that's because of me tinkering with it.

    Side View

    Top View with lid on collection cup

    Lid removed

    I'm very impressed, with the build quality and design, however, here's the only complaint I have, though it's not a big complaint.

    When assembling the motor, or actually, attaching to motor assembly to the skimmer body, there are 2 nuts that need to be attached and tightened.  The area where the pump goes is quite small.  It's very difficult to get the nuts tightened and I have small hands…lol.

    The opening measures 7 1/8" X 4 1/4".  Within this area is the pump, along with the 2 nuts you need to tighten and the air hose.  Attach the air hose last.  Also, attach one nut, (the left hand one is easiest, FIRST, but don't completely tighten it, then swing the pump into the opening and attach the second nut.  Then squeeze a couple of fingers in there to tighten both of them.  Then, put a towel on the floor, because as soon as you plug it in, you'll most likely find that you didn't tighten the nuts enough…lol.  :doh:

    Unplug the skimmer, completely dry the water, that's in the pump opening, tighten the nuts and plug it back in, checking to make sure nothing is leaking. 

    This process took me 3 tries…lol.

    NOW, onto my next complaint, also a small one, but could be critical if you've never operated a skimmer.  No instructions and the secret to priming.

    If you look closely, at the left hand chamber (viewed from behind), this is the water intake chamber, you'll notice a nipple on the black pipe.  This nipple has a rubber cap.  When the skimmer is put together and hanging on your tank, UNPLUGGED, fill the skimmer completely up with water, through the center chamber, by removing the collection cup and pouring water into this.  Fill the skimmer until water starts to pour out of the output, back into the tank.  Now, get a container that holds at least 1/2 gallon of water, I used a gallon pitcher.  Remove the rubber cap from the nipple.  You'll need to fill that chamber with water, to a level ABOVE that nipple and then, QUICKLY put the cap back on the nipple, while the nipple is still submerged. 

    Priming the skimmer is a bit tricky.  At first, I filled it up with water, and plugged it in.  Nothing happened, so I instantly unplugged it.  It seems an air pocket gets trapped, inside the pump.  Opening that nipple releases the air pocket.  BUT, you need to fill above the nipple and recap the nipple, to trap water inside it, to prime the skimmer.

    I had to call SWC, to have this explained to me.  Without priming this way, someone could easily burn up this pump.

    All in all, so far, I'm very impressed with this skimmer and I believe it's going to ROCK!  My only complaints are lack of documentation, in the packaging, and the small area where the pump needs to be attached.  Neither are a large complaint though.

    This skimmer is SILENT!!  It comes with a "silencer," but it's not needed.  I actually removed it, to see if it made any difference.  Nope, still SILENT!! 

    In the last chamber, there is a black sponge, to trap micro bubbles.  There's also a round sponge provided, that can be put on the output pipe, to trap bubbles.  I do not have that round sponge installed and NO bubbles are being released into the tank.  The design is very good, in that, initially, the water from the pump moves into the left hand chamber, then under and around the center chamber, into the right hand chamber, trapping all bubbles in the left hand chamber.  Looking at the right hand chamber, there are NO bubbles, under that sponge, so I'll probably remove it.